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In this section I will offer my thoughts and views on various topics and provide readers with an opportuntiy to comment - such comments may be included to create an interactive discussion. I will try not to be too wordy or academic as above all I feel that collecting ought to be fun!
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July 17th 2017

Lot 49 The Mackintosh sale 1967


I have just acquired this unusual green coated Ralph Wood sharp face Toby jug – Lot 49 from the 1967 Mackintosh sale held at Sotheby’s in London. I’ve had several blue coated sharp faces over the years but this is the first in this rich olive green – the old hat repair has deteriorated over the past 50 years and I will have my restorer tidy this up but the missing stem of his central pipe will remain “lost” as that is how he is seen in the catalogue. A dealer’s mark on the under base in pencil ”reserved for Sir Harold”
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July 17th 2017
 
Peter Meanley’s    “Sara Toby jug”
 
The latest recipient of a Peter Meanley Toby jug is Sara who came over to take delivery last week and needless to say she’s delighted. Each Toby is personalised to incorporate the features that you want – in my case (see further down the page) one of my dogs, a favourite Toby jug and a trout fly. Sara’s academic interest in witchcraft is reflected in the owl, broomstick and hat!   
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If you are interested in having Peter create a “you” Toby then contact me and I will put you in touch with him - you will deal directly with Peter and I have no interest whatsoever beyond this introduction. Peter is a friend and, as he lives in Ireland, we often arrange for him to meet people here in Surrey to discuss particular requirements and take pictures etc. The entire process can take several months as Peter only fires two kiln’s each year.
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17th June 2017

Does anyone want to buy a part dinner service or a pair of figurines?

Looking a bit lost amongst the dinner service and continental figures is this rather nice step Toby – the Lot sold today at a very good auction house in the North West of England and of course to win the Toby you also had to win the rest of the Lot!

It is not uncommon for an auction house to include a good piece in a lot containing lesser pieces as this does ensure the sale of the lesser pieces. As you can see from the picture below he was well worth winning!
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Very early and generally in good original condition he dates to c.1780. The glaze is excellent, he has his original pipe and the “smudge” by his left foot is probably the remains of a dog as you can see the paws overlapping the base. Sadly he was spotted by others and so went for a higher than expected price but well worth it - now does anyone want a part dinner service!
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12th June 2017

From an excellent collection located in the South

My thanks to the owner of these three wonderful Toby jugs which form part of a much larger collection amassed over many decades – one of the finest collections I know of.

The decoration of the jug on the left is beautiful but the handle is probably one of the most exotic I have seen with a lovely Buddha perched atop!

In the centre an excellent Ralph Wood “ordinary” Toby made extraordinary by the depth of the green on his coat – I cannot recall seeing a richer green on a Ralph Wood.

To the right a good example of the Ralph Wood hooked nose Toby retaining most of his original gilding – this is so easily rubbed that it’s little short of a miracle to find this much remaining – and doesn’t it make him look fine!
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May 28th 2017

From the collection of a West Country Gentleman

It’s great to have a representative collection of early Toby jugs featuring all of the various types, however, when you create a range of Toby’s of the same style but of differing colours and sizes it can look spectacular as this range of Hearty Good Fellow’s clearly shows! See below for a similar selection of Sailors ad Planters.
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From the same collection and again showing how well a varied range of the same style of early Toby displays. In the centre a recently acquired “Dollers” sailor as well as a rare Trafalgar sailor and an unusual enamelled planter on the right. I must add that this collector also has a very wide range of other Toby’s in his collection – a very representative collection.
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24th May 2017
 
Recent acquisitions
 
Having searched for several years I have finally acquired a large Hollin’s Toby - well potted and decorated and certainly one of the largest of the early Toby jugs – c.1800. Clear impressed Hollin’s to the underbase – a great Toby! You gain a good idea of his size against this Ralph Wood 51.
 
A bit like buses – you wait for ages and then two come along – see below!
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I managed to buy a rare blue coated “no base” Toby jug a few months ago which is currently with my restorer. These are extremely rare and it is thought that only 4 or 5 exist – and then along comes another!

This lovely brown coated example was acquired at Bonham’s last week and, apart from a few hat chips, is in very good condition. He stands at 7” tall, however, as he is full bodied (not the narrow body found on many mid sized Toby’s) he sits well against ordinary Toby’s.
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27th April 2017

Thanks to my good friend Milt for these pictures of his Toby jug collection – a fine selection including some rare examples and I particularly like the row of Ralph Woods on the bottom shelf as well as the sailor complete with a bottle of beer!
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More from Milt’s collection – the three barrel Toby’s look so good together and you can just see the face in the mirror from the caryatid handle of the Portuguese Toby bottom shelf far right. Some collectors avoid the mid size Toby jugs but the two on the top shelf show how well they display alongside their larger companions.
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26th March 2017

Whilst I have focussed on the late 18th century and early 19th century Toby’s the museum houses 1000’s of jug’s – many rare and unique – from the mid 18th century through to the present day and from across the world.

Entry to the museum is free - Steve and the Assistant Curator Sandra Lachler possess a wealth of knowledge which they are happy to share with all collectors – a must visit museum!
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February 28th 2017

Good early Toby jugs continue to command high prices - despite a very nasty case of the pox this lovely example sold at Woolley and Wallis in Salisbury today at a little over £2000 including premiums - well moulded, richly decorated and in very nice original condition.   
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17th February 2017

The following email arrived this week and Dana kindly agreed that I could publish this picture - a further picture of this splendid Toby jug appears below.

Dear Bob, The Short Hat toby arrived safely today.

He was held up in New York for several days, I suspect by the 3 big snow storms we've had in the last week. Last Monday's blizzard alone left us with another 2 feet of snow!

At any rate, he is a simply beautiful jug and I feel very proud to be able to add him to my collection. I sent along a photo with the new arrival.

Have a wonderful weekend.

Best wishes,

Dana
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Dear Bob,

Yes, please feel free to use the picture on the website.

My friends and family (whom I think all believe that I'm a little bit cracked) will get a real kick out of it.

Best wishes,

Dana

Dear Dana

It simply doesn’t matter that no-one understands us. We’ll continue to collect and feel sorry for those poor people who lost their treasure hunting instincts when childhood ended!

Best wishes

Bob
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January 12th 2017

Henry Aldridge & Son Auctioneers -
- one of the good ones!


In addition to being the leading auction house in the world for Titanic memorabilia Aldridges also have excellent fine art sales and I managed to buy several good Lots of early English pottery in their November sale. Whilst collecting these I noticed that two pieces had restoration not mentioned in their report - an honest oversight on the part of Aldridges.

My restorer stripped these and quoted me for restoration and I sent pre restoration pictures to Aldridges who immediately apologised for this simple oversight and agreed an appropriate refund. It's a great shame that some other auction houses do not act in a similar fashion and refuse to accept responsibility when they issue incomplete condition reports!

Henry Aldridge & Son are an excellent auction house - use them with great confidence!     

A picture of Alan Aldridge holding Wallace Hartley's violin played whilst the Titanic went down - this sold at Aldridges for $1.45m
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November 3rd 2016

Another good early Toby jug exceeds it's estimate.

This lovely marked Neale & Co Toby jug sold at Bonhams in London today for a hammer price of £2800 (c.£3640 including commission and vat) against an estimate of £700 - £900. In good original condition and with an additional inscribed mark 24 to the under base.

Clearly good Toby's are more than holding their value, and as I've suggested in the past, have the potential to be good investments! 
 
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3rd November 2016

Many Toby collectors have an example of the c.1840 Brampton King George 111 Toby jug in their collection and here is a picture showing the four sizes that they come in ranging from 8" to 11 1/2" together with a smaller example from an unknown pottery. These stoneware saltglazed Toby's are well moulded, richly coloured and not too costly. Several can be found for sale on the website.
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28th October 2016

This lovely creamware Toby jug sold at Durrants auctioneer’s today for a hammer price of £2200 – c.£2640 with commission. The estimate was very low and did not account for the fact that the underbase was impressed “Neale & Co” making this quite a rarity.

A pretty expensive impressed mark! - an almost identical but unmarked example can be found on page 4 of this website priced at £1200. Having said that it’s good to see yet another early Toby jug fetching such a high price.
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4th October 2016

This lovely Ralph Wood Toby jug sold today at Canterbury Auction Galleries for a hammer price of £2400 plus premium - c. £3000 - a great price and certainly more than I would have hoped to sell him for! As the underbidder I was disappointed to lose him but delighted to see yet another example of a fine early Toby fetching such a good price.
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August 31st 2016

Congratulations to the winner of Lot 692 in today’s sale at Rowley’s Fine Art Auctioneers – these five Toby jugs were estimated at £200-£300 and achieved £4940 including premium. Whilst four required restoration (the Long Face in generally good condition) they were good early Toby’s and warranted a serious price.

As under bidder disappointed, however, delighted to see further confirmation that good early Toby jug’s are maintaining excellent prices and that Toby jug’s in need of restoration (if rare or of fine quality) are well worth buying.
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August 9th 2016


My thanks to Sara for spotting this work at the Royal Academy 2016 Summer Exhibition in London.

Titled “At the sign of the White Horse” this is a limited edition digital collage on ceramic by the artist Tom Barker and is priced at £495.00 – I particularly like the snuff taker!
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22nd July 2016

This lovely early Ralph Wood Toby jug sold at Tennants Auctioneers this morning for £3198 including premiums - the estimate was £400-£600!

Of course I am disappointed at not having been able to win him, however, great news for all collectors as it again proves that good early Toby jugs continue to fetch excellent prices - these really can be regarded as good investments!

 
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July 11th 2016
 
My thanks to Phil for these excellent pictures of four fine Bacchus and Pan jugs all Staffordshire 1780-1800 – it looks like an extract from the 1996 BUTE catalogue!

These fascinating jugs were designed by John Voyez who worked for the Wood family in the latter part of the 18th century. Whilst strictly speaking not Toby jug’s they feature in many collections.
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On one side Pan and on the other Bacchus, a dolphin spout, monkey handle, lion skin and an owl! Occasionally you also find small models of dog’s or “the widow” on the base and I have also seen a commemorative version with portraits of King George on one side of the barrel and Caroline on the other - these are fabulous and complex pieces of early Staffordshire pottery. They come in creamware, pearlware and prattware with some produced by Whieldon and by Ralph Wood.
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June 12th 2016

My thanks to Milt, an American collector, for sending me details of his lovely collection and for allowing me to show this particularly nice early 19th century Portuguese Toby jug on the website. The typical creamware body richly decorated in manganese, blue, ochre and green translucent glazes and with a delightful caryatid handle – a great Toby!
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June 7th 2016

Several collectors have mentioned an article (please see this article below) on another “Toby jug website” which states “Prices continue to tumble” and are astonished that the dealers running that site are so very negative! Perhaps these people no longer actively deal in Toby jugs but to adopt such a downbeat attitude when in fact the Toby jug collecting community flourishes is very disappointing - they do their clients, who still value their collections, a great disservice.

In my opinion Toby jugs continue to constitute very good investments - and collecting is such good fun!  Pictured is a 5 ¼” tall continental Toby Jug money box from my collection.
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From another website

“Prices continue to tumble with this nice looking Prattware Toby jug only securing a low bid of £220”:

(Gerrards Auction Rooms 26.5.16 -19thC Ralph Wood style Toby Jug. Odd chips to glaze, height 10”. Condition: No restoration. Good condition, with odd glaze chips and missing glaze to the mug which he is holding in his hand. Estimate 80-120 GB)

I looked at this Toby and in my opinion there was restoration, the glaze losses were significant and there was no mention of the serious and extensive glaze staining – in view of this I didn’t bid.

Despite its actual condition a collector acquired what was still a lovely Toby jug at an appropriate price of almost three times low estimate – hardly prices tumbling!

Bob Moores
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April 25th 2016

Debbie found this at a fair last week;

A receipt from The Ministry of Works and Buildings dated 4th June 1942 for the “salvage of railings etc” from 236, Warley Road in Blackpool – in the midst of WW11 everyone was expected to contribute to the war effort by giving aluminium pots and pans and scrap iron to be melted down for airplanes, tanks and munitions.

Clearly the owner of number 236 was not impressed!
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4th April 2016

Since my article on Peter Meanley last year (see below) a number of collectors have commissioned Peter to create a Toby jug for them and here we see Peter Stennett taking delivery of his – it really is a magnificent Toby and I particularly like the Martin Bros bird!
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If you “Google” Peter Meanley and then go to “images” you will find numerous examples of Peter’s work including Toby jugs depicting The Queen Mother, Henry Sandon, President Obama, Judi Dench and many others. If you are interested in having your own personalised Peter Meanley Toby jug please contact me and I will put you in touch with Peter.
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March 20th 2016
 
Man Cave!
 
I was going to say thanks to Peter for this picture of his man cave but apparently it’s his front room and the fabulous Norton Commando motorcycle is his partner’s Sara! Peter’s collection of toby jugs looks great and so I guess this must be a “couple cave”
 
Peter will take delivery of his Peter Meanley toby jug (see article below) in April and I hope that he will allow me to put some pictures on this website.  
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January 5th 2016


This “Fiddler” Toby jug is one of only six made by Frank Stoner (a collector and dealer) c.1910-1914 and may well be a likeness of Lord Mackintosh of Halifax. One is featured in the third edition of Vic Schuler’s “Collecting British Toby Jugs” on page 57 together with an amusing story on page 55:
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One of Frank Stoner’s clients Mr F. S. Hooker (a prominent Toby jug collector) asked over dinner as he had many times before “when are you going to find me a Fiddler Toby?” Frank decided to have six fiddlers made with at least one in the likeness of Mr Hooker and the others of eminent collectors. The next time Mr Hooker came to dinner he was astounded to come across this fiddler and even more so when his wife later told him it looked just like him!
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January 1st 2016

Small (and mid size!) is beautiful

My thanks to Paul for these pictures of his excellent collection of small or miniature Toby jugs – the mid sized Sinner in the centre at c. 7 ¾” tall enabling us to judge heights. Some lovely Staffordshire and Yorkshire examples together with a rare female oyster seller and two examples of the Paul Pry Toby – the famous Georgian actor John Liston played the part of Paul Pry on stage in the early 1800’s.
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In this fine collection of mid sized Toby jugs we have a standard “ordinary” Toby in the centre at c.9 ¾” tall allowing us to judge heights. An excellent Hearty Good Fellow on the right, a yellow coated Askew and far left a wonderful pearlware high base. My favourite is the rare mid sized “ordinary” third from the right.
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November 29th 2015

My thanks to Bob from Illinois, not only for his purchase of the Fair Hebe jug that I recently listed, but also for sharing this picture of his fine collection of these fascinating jugs. Designed by Voyez in the late 18th century and produced by many potteries including Ralph Wood and as you can see created in numerous sizes and glazes.

You would be hard put to find a better collection and somewhere out there is a Fair Hebe Toby jug which sold at Bonham’s some 10 years ago.
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23rd November 2015

Please see my article on David Henderson and his fabulous pottery below - as you can see he has extended his range to include this richly coloured dish and many others.
 
Contact details are:  


david.henderson2@bbc.co.uk
 
07541 310 154
 
 
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21st November 2015

The best “worst” restoration that I have seen!

I acquired this Hearty Good fellow Toby at the NEC antiques fair this week – as you can see his hat had been lost and someone (many years ago) decided that creating a tricorn hat was too much like hard work and elected to fit a toupee – it looks fabulous! He is actually a really fine Toby and whilst I’m tempted to leave him as he is I will have my restorer fit a tricorn – I will post before and after pictures once completed.
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November 9th 2015

 
 
My thank to Eugene who is Russian and a collector of toby jugs who kindly sent me a link to the Russian State Historical Museum’s display of Toby jugs. These featured in the museum’s exhibition this year titled “English Breakfast” commemorating Anglomania – the popularity of English culture in Russia in the 19th century. 
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Whilst some of these are clearly English (Staffordshire) there are some lovely Russian copies of the Hearty Good Fellow – if you look closely the faces are slightly different from ours and I particularly like the eastern version!

The following link will enable you to see the rest of this interesting exhibition:

http://vladimirdar.livejournal.com/41997.html?page=1
 
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November 7th 2015

The wisdom of our children

My daughter Zoe’s birthday card to me this year!
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12th July 2015
 
Roman nose Toby jug – in 13 years of collecting and dealing in fine early English Toby jugs I have only seen two roman nose Toby jugs come up for sale – these are exceptionally rare!
 
I own the first (a pearlware Ralph Wood) which sold at auction in Dorking, England in 2004 and this wonderful example came up for sale yesterday at John McInnis auctioneers in Massachusetts with a starting price of $100 – fiercely contested to $8000 plus premiums – worth every penny (cent)!
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July 7th 2105
 
My thanks to Robert Carde (USA) for the following:

Re: Ralph Wood hook nosed Toby 1/6462 
 
Having nothing better to do with my time ........
Hester Milgrove Taylor was born in Leigh on Mendip and her birth was registered in the 1st quarter of 1840 in Frome. She married Alfred Gulliford in Shepton Mallet in 1863. It seems that the couple had no children and spent their married life in the Frome / SM / Vobster area. He died in 1915, she in 1916. I\'ve not been able to find her parents (yet). As a side note, in 1861 a Hester Taylor (age 21 from Frome) was a servant at Dumbleton Hall, Gloucester. The Rector of Dumbleton was Robert Wedgwood - Josiah\'s grandson. Fascinating!!

Regards,
Bob
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12th June 2015
 
Martin Brothers Toby jug
 
I have always admired the work of the Martin Brothers of Lambeth who created wonderful pieces of stoneware pottery in the late 19th century including the “Wally” bird tobacco jars which are so sought after. I had not realised that they also made a Toby jug and my thanks to Philip Mernick for this picture of the Toby which can be seen at Cannon Hall House near Barnsley. 
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27th April 2015

This rare Ralph Wood shield Toby jug which has been in my collection for almost ten years has recently found a new home in the West Country and now forms part of a fine collection (fast becoming larger than mine) and I’m still not sure how Graham persuaded me to part with him!
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16th April 2015

In 1947 the renowned collector Lord Mackintosh of Halifax commissioned Leonard Jarvis to create the Churchill Toby jug in a limited edition of 350. Details of these can be found on the Toby jugs for sale section of this website.

In 1953 Lord Mackintosh gave a further commission to Leonard Jarvis to create a “Lord Mackintosh Toby jug” and it is understood that these were made in a small edition (probably less than 20) and were intended for family members and not offered for sale. Whilst these rarely become available I am happy to say that I was able to acquire this one (marked number 12) earlier this week
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31st March 2015

The latest addition to my collection! I am working with a collector in Spain who is selling part of his collection and I brought this back from Bilbao last month. These sailors are fine early Toby jugs (c.1800) which were at one time thought to be English (due to their similarity to the English originals) however, for a long time it has been accepted that these are in fact Portuguese
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On the under base is an old label for Boswell & Ward of London W1 who traded between c. 1965 and 1973 and it is fair to assume that they may well have thought it English. The dealers who sold this jug more recently have added their own trade label plus a hand written label stating:

“An 18th century creamware “Rodney’s Sailor” c.1785+ wearing a green jacket striped trousers. Provenance:- From a private collector Oxfordshire U.K.”

The collector clearly believed this to be English, however, it is fair to say that no mention of “English” is stated on the label – no mention of Portuguese either!
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31st March 2015

My thanks to Gerry in Canada for sending this picture of part of his collection – some fabulous Toby jugs and on the top shelf to the right his recently acquired Lord Howe in manganese on a creamware body and to the left a particularly nice Collier with raised pipe.
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10th March 2015
 
I am delighted that Peter Meanley has allowed me to acquire this wonderful and unique set of saltglazed Toby jugs depicting the G8 leaders (see details below) from the summit that took place at the Lough Erne Hotel near Enniskillen in County Fermanagh on June 17th – 18th 2013. Beautifully modelled and standing at approximately 45cm (18”) tall they are an imposing set – now I have to try to find somewhere to display them!
 

 
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Above from left to right:
 
Italian Prime Minister                                     Enrico Letta
President of Russia                                        Vladimir Putin
Chancellor of Germany                                   Angela Merkel
Prime Minister of the United Kingdom            David Cameron
President of the United States                       Barack Obama
Prime Minister of Japan                                 Shinzo Abe
President of France                                        Francois Hollande
Prime Minister of Canada                               Stephen Harper
 
Earlier in 2013 (and prior to the G8 summit) Italy elected Enrico Letta as its new Prime Minister and so the Toby jug depicting Mario Monti (pictured here) was not required – he now makes number 9 of the set.

 
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2nd February 2015

My thanks to Steve for these pictures showing a small selection from his extensive collection – whilst Steve has a wide range of early Toby’s he is clearly a devotee ofthe Yorkshire Toby jug and I know for a fact that he has others!

Below - three Prattware Toby’s displaying similar colouring and painted detail suggesting that they might well be from the same pottery?
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Whilst we know so little about the individual potteries who made these Toby’s in the late 18th / early 19th century, there are occasions when we find two jugs that are so similar that they simply had to come from the same pottery and were perhaps even painted by the same hand?

(Please contact me if you would like me to include pictures from your collection on the website – these are always of interest to other collectors)
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10th January 2015


My thanks to Peter for this picture of his recently acquired Davenport Drunken Sal Toby jug on display alongside some formidable ladies - thanks must also go to Sara who gave this to Peter for Christmas!




 
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5th January 2015

Wilkinson WW11 Allied Leaders Collection

Inspired by the original set of WW1 military and political leaders by Carruthers Gould which has proven to be so highly collectable, this set of 12 WW11 Allied Leaders Toby jugs was conceived and commissioned by Steve Mullins of the American Toby Jug Museum of Evanston, Illinois, designed by the renowned modeller Ray Noble and hand crafted and painted by Bairstow Manor of Stoke on Trent.

These Toby jugs have been produced to a high standard, production is limited to the numbers below, and they are available through a small number of dealers both here and in America. They can be ordered individually or in complete sets (subject to availability) and I have already taken orders for a number of sets. Please let me know if you would like further information on this set or wish to order one or more of these fine Toby jugs.

 
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Standing at c.11” tall (heights vary) the set comprises:

Edition size:

100 Field Marshall Bernard Law Montgomery
150 President Franklin D Roosevelt
100 General George S. Patton Jnr
100 General Dwight D Eisenhower
100 Admiral Lord Louis Mountbatten
100 Generalissimo Chiang Kai-Shek
150 Prime Minister Winston S. Churchill
100 King George V1
100 Premier Joseph Stalin 100 King George V1
100 General Douglas MacArthur
100 General Charles de Gaulle
100 Admiral Chester W. Nimitz

£300 per Toby jug

It is anticipated that some of these will be available to ship over the next month or two and the complete set by c. June 2015.

 
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29th December 2014

Dr Peter Meanley

After graduating from the York School of Art Peter Meanley studied ceramics at the Royal College of Art and later gained a doctorate at the University of Ulster where he was a Reader in Ceramics for many years.

Peter has an excellent understanding and appreciation of early English Toby jugs and has worked with salt glaze for 30 years combining these skills to create some fabulous salt glazed Toby jugs caricaturing famous personalities - and also some significantly lesser mortals!

If you “Google” Peter Meanley and look in “images” you will see many examples of Peter’s work.
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I first heard of Peter when I saw Henry Sandon receive his Toby jug on the Antiques Roadshow and as I have a passion for both Toby jugs and salt glaze was immediately enamoured! Peter visited us in early 2014 and 10 months later produced our Toby jugs. Debbie and I are delighted to have Peter as a friend.

Please let me know if you are interested in having Peter create a Toby jug for you and I will be happy to let you know what is involved and put you in touch with him. Peter will visit you, take numerous pictures, and discuss what personal elements you would like incorporated – I had my dog Bentley, a favourite Toby jug and trout flies in my tricorn! The whole process to completion takes approximately 10 - 11 months.
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19th December 2014

Many thanks to my good friend Dana from Augusta for sharing this picture of his collection of Toby jugs with his most recent acquisition, the Martha Gunn, taking pride of place on the top shelf. 

Good to see the Trafalgar Sailor and small Drunken Parson again – a great collection!


 
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16th December 2014

Congratulations to the winner of this lovely late 18th century Portuguese Toby jug thatcame up at auction yesterday evening in Lisbon. Despite some old restoration to his boots he is still one of the nicest Portuguese Toby’s that I have seen and I am immensely jealous!
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December 9th 2014

These wonderful pieces, whilst influenced by Bernard Palissey and others, are very much the result of David Henderson’s childhood delight in discovering the myriad life to be found in rock pools, streams, fields, caves and rivers – all around us if we care to search.

David creates a wide range of chargers, platters, plates and dishes as well as individual items all containing fascinating elements of nature and he is also happy to discuss individual commissions whereby his imagination and yours can merge!
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David is a good friend and I am delighted to be able to showcase a few of his pieces on my website – I will be happy to take enquiries and pass these on to David or, alternatively, you can contact him directly:
 
david.henderson2@bbc.co.uk
 
07541 310 154
 
Bob Moores
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November 3rd 2014 

Hi Bob, Having recently discovered one of my toby’s (Martha Gunn) is illustrated in Vic Schulers book I decided to check out the provenance of others I own.

I found no more illustrated in the various reference books, however, I did discover an interesting past on another Martha Gunn in Vic Schuler's 1st Edition, the Martha Gunn complete with hat/cup proudly illustrated on the front cover (and reproduced on pg94 bottom left) also appears in Vic Schuler’s 3rd Edition Pg 78 bottom left, however, this time she sports the Prince of Wales Feathers suggesting a superior example!. 

Toby jugs each have unique individual characteristics, the run of glaze, the hand painted decoration or the odd chip and this is certainly the same jug. Restoration has its critics, but where would this stand on acceptability? 

Great selection of jugs on your site. Well done, really appreciate the prices being shown and open for negotiation . Why do so many sites fail to show the price? 
Graham.
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November 7th 2014
 
Hi Graham
 
Many thanks for your brilliant detective work!
 
I have included pictures of each of the illustrations from Vic Schuler’s books and having studied these carefully they certainly appear to be the same Martha Gunn Toby – I agree that it is normally possible to tell from the painted detail on two pictures whether or not it is the same Toby.
 
If this is the same jug then it would appear that some unscrupulous dealer has decided to add the Prince of Wales feathers thereby adding value and this is of course quite unacceptable. As you know from my article (below) I believe that it is perfectly in order to restore a good Toby jug but under no circumstances to attempt to add value by enhancing the Toby in such a way. All the more reason for collector’s to deal with reputable dealers!
 
Bob Moores    
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May 18th 2014
 
Seventeen Toby jugs sold this afternoon at Stair Galleries in New York and, whilst a few were relatively mundane, the majority were good early pieces and fetched excellent prices. Despite some restoration all were heavily contested and this good Ralph Wood Planter sold for just over $6400 including commission. 
 
This bodes well for all collectors as it is clear that good early Toby jugs continue to not only hold their value but prices consistently increase – excellent investments!  
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This richly coloured pearlware Squire Toby jug with restoration to both handle and hat also reached over $7000 including commission yet again proving that restoration on a good and relatively rare Toby jug ought not to be a deterrent and should not  significantly devalue the piece. A fine Long Face Toby in nicely muted colours together with a Martha Gunn also did well as did a very nice Lord Howe.
 
 
My thanks to Stair Galleries for these pictures and also for providing comprehensive condition reports and an excellent service to it’s buyers
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  24th April 2014
 
 
Dear Graham – many thanks for your comments regarding the Postillion and I’m delighted that you are pleased with him – he does look great!
 
(This is the Postillion on the left of the “after” picture below)  
 
I completely agree with you on the question of restoration as this does allow collectors the opportunity to acquire “rare” Toby jugs at affordable prices and also, when eventually selling them, to achieve good prices as the estimates are reasonable and attract healthy competition.
 
Your last point is well founded and I’ve seen this happen several times - a rare and expensive piece comes up at auction and is contested to a very high price by two wealthy buyers and then, at some later date, a similar piece comes up and due to the lack of competition achieves a much lower price.
 
I’ll look out for that Thin Boy in need of care and attention !
 
Best wishes
 
Bob Moores


23rd April 2014
 
Hi Bob, Postilian looks great in the collection.

The restorer has again done an excellent job, the colours and features are brilliant when you consider its age, if only they could talk, what history they have seen. I know restoration always promotes discussion but for me it is perhaps the only way I can afford to build a collection that has the rarities other collectors would love to own. I also would suggest that when a collector comes to part with a well restored rare toby he is more likely to get a good price and an easier sale than if selling a perfect (and very costly) example as there will be more collectors able to afford it and bid it up.
 
The number of collectors able to afford perfect rare examples is limited and of course it takes two bidders to push the price up at auction. When a collector stops buying then without the competition you can frequently see a major reduction in the prices realised. I can't wait until the next rare toby that needs some TLC comes on the market ( Thin Boy ) yes please. Graham


March 28th 2014
 
“Before”
 
In February I showed this picture of the Postillion Toby jug that I had bought at Fieldings auction which was in need of restoration alongside a similar Postillion belonging to a friend. The Fieldings Toby needed a new hat and right hand and also had several chips on the base and handle that needed attention
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"after"

I am delighted to say that he is now back from my restorer and here he is looking very good indeed – this is a rare Toby jug and well worth bringing back to full glory. A full set of pictures can be seen under Toby jugs for sale.
 
 
The Fielding Postillion (on the left) is going to a collector in the West country and my friend decided to part with his Postillion and having put him on my website he sold within 24 hours.  
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March 4th 2014

Triple vision!


I could'nt resist taking this picture of three Wilkinsons General Louis Botha toby jugs together and I'm sure that there won't be many opportunities to do so again - only one of these is for sale as the other two are spoken for. 
 
Of the eleven toby jugs depicting the 1st World War military and political leaders made it was thought that General Botha would be the least popular and only 150 were produced - as the rarest he now commands the highest price.

Whilst he is a fine toby jug he is not better than the others in the set, however, the pleasure of owning a complete set (very few collectors do) makes this cost worthwhile! These really are exceptionally fine toby jugs.


Bob Moores
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February 24th 2014
 

Pearlware Postillion toby jug c.1800
 

We all waxed eloquently about the four ex Mackintosh toby jugs that came up at Fieldings Auctioneers a few weeks ago and with good reason, however, I think that this chap (on the left) was the hidden gem at the sale. It was difficult to see him clearly in the auction house picture and at first glance I thought that he was Portuguese (perhaps restored by a plumber as he appears to have a miniature toilet on his head!) however, the moment I picked him up I knew that he was a very nice and well moulded pearlware Postillion.
 

Fortunately I had sold a similar Postillion several years ago (the one on the right) and the present owner has kindly loaned it to me to enable my restorer to take a mould of the hat and right hand. Once restored I will put pictures of him on the website showing how he's turned out. A fine and rare toby jug and for all the reasons that I mention in my article on restoration below an ideal candidate for bringing back to full glory. Not surprisingly another collector has already laid claim!
 

Bob Moores

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18th February 2014
 

Standing Postillion
 

This is an extremely rare toby jug and the only one that I have seen in twelve years of collecting - also one of the few toby jugs that I really regret selling! Having said that he went to a good friend and is now part of a significant collection.
 

When I saw him several years ago I though at first glance that he was a smaller than normal Hearty Good Fellow in rather nice colours (he stands at 9" tall) and then I picked him up and saw his face - clearly the face of a Postillion and I knew that he was rather special! In fact my friend had known of another that he'd seen with a London dealer many years ago, however, still a very unusual and rare toby jug.

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The striped jacket and floral decoration to the rear make him really stand out and the strength of colour suggests the North of England or Scotland ?

 

Many thanks to my friend, who wishes to remain anonymous, for allowing me to include these pictures as I know many collectors will enjoy seeing him - does anyone out there know of another standing Postillion or have an equally rare toby jug that they would like to share?

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17th February 2014

I purchased the toby jug on the right SN:1/5085 (see under Toby jugs for sale) from a fine private collection in Kent last year and the toby on the left several weeks ago from a private collection in Norfolk. Whilst I'd realised they were similar it was only last week when I had a friend visiting that we placed them side by side and saw that they were almost identical.

 

These are clearly from the same pottery, using the same moulds, and when you look at the detail it's easy to imagine that they might have been painted by the same hand - perhaps not but an intriguing thought.
 

We have to wonder where they have been for the past c.230 years, who's owned and enjoyed them and where they will have travelled - to end up together again on my dining room table in Godalming - what are the odds on that!
 

Bob Moores

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15th February 2014
Wilkinson's Carruthers Gould Toby jugs


The set that I mentioned in early January (see below) arrived on February 5th. As most have now sold I am delighted to announce that (after a week of negotiation!) I have managed to buy another complete set of these exceptional Toby jugs - see picture.  I shall be listing many of these over the next few days.

Bob 

 
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Client Collections

10th February 2014


Many thanks to Tony from the South coast of England for these pictures showing part of what is a very significant collection of saltglazed stoneware and early glass. A wonderful range of pieces and the one that stands out for me is the saltglazed face jug on the right of the second shelf - easy to see why so many toby jug collectors also enjoy 18th century saltglaze!
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This second picture from Tony shows some beautiful 18th century bottles and I particularly like the fish flask on the top shelf.
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Client Collections

10th February 2014

Many thanks to Peter from Kent for this picture of his recently acquired step toby looking very much at home with some friends above the inglenook - so cosy and so English!
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Client Collections

10th February 2014


My thanks to Gerry from Canada for these two pictures showing the toby jugs in just one of his cabinets! I have had the pleasure of working with Gerry for over 10 years and know him to be a very discerning collector who has always adopted the approach of quality before quantity - having said that Gerry has clearly achieved both!   

The short hatted Ralph Wood (second left lower shelf) with the decorated front base is really nice as is the Wood sailor in the white.
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Two more shelves from Gerry's excellent collection and I particularly like the prattware with decorated base ( second left bottom shelf )

Gerry - Many thanks for sharing these !
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8th February 2014


Todays sale at Fieldings auctioneers in Stourbridge included a nice range of early Toby jugs and four of these were from the 1967 Sotheby's sale of the Mackintosh collection. Not all were in the best condition but I am delighted to say that I managed to acquire this very fine Ralph Wood - best of the four ex Mackintosh - a real connoisseurs toby jug!    I also bought some other pieces and these will be displayed on the site shortly - so good to see early Toby jugs continuing to sell at such significant prices and again proving their great investment value.
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Advance warning!

I have a complete set of Wilkinson toby jugs by Carruthers Gould coming in towards the end of February - Botha has pre sold. Please let me know if you are looking for a particular toby jug from this set. 
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September 18th 2013
 

Congratulations to the winner of this lovely Sailor toby jug that sold at Mellors and Kirk this morning (Lot 450) - I was the underbidder !

 

This was catalogued as a "Wood type sailor toby jug" and in my opinion is Portuguese, however, despite the fact that he needs a small amount of restoration he's a fine toby jug and well worth the £1800 plus premiums paid. If I had been successful I would have kept him to sit alongside other early /mid 19th century Portuguese toby jugs that I have. Whilst different from early English Toby jugs in a number of ways these early Portuguese Toby jugs have great merit.

 

Good early Toby jugs continue to fetch significant prices at auction and I'm confident that this will continue which is good news for all of us!

 

 

Bob Moores

 

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September 14th 2013

When you are next in Scotland go to Culpar in Fife and you will find this lovely memorial sitting opposite the Ceres Inn. This Toby jug figure is of the Rev. Thomas Buchanan who was Minister of Ceres 1578-99 and he was known as "the Provost of Ceres".  The statue was the work of a local stonemason called John Howie and dates to c.1837. 








 

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13th September 2013

Bob, A few days ago whilst viewing another dealers web site, under the "news" section I came across an article concerning a jug holding a wine glass very "similar" to the one shown as sold on your site. The article suggests the jug had been "enhanced" to increase its value and the tone could be interpreted to infer the dealer may be trying to deceive. As you are well aware nothing could be further from the truth. The facts are that I am uncomfortable bidding at auction and asked you to bid on my behalf and if successful to arrange for the restoration works required. In effect to act as my agent in this matter, (which you have kindly done before).  I was fully aware of the restoration work being undertaken, how could it have been enhanced to deceive? deceive who? The toby has now joined a collection built up over 45 years from which none have ever been sold or will be. The excellent work was carried out to my full satisfaction and I will certainly be buying more jugs from you in the future. Steve Mott



September 13th 2013

 

Many thanks for your comment Steve and whilst this other site did'nt show a picture of the Toby jug they referred to it may well have been your Yorkshire - I have shown a picture and it's a great toby jug!


During restoration we discussed the fact the there was a significant (and original) hole running through his right hand which had presumably held something that would have been visible both above and below the hand. To have fitted the common beaker would have left an unsightly hole showing under his hand and so we agreed that the most sympathic solution would be a stemmed goblet.


I'm delighted that he met with your approval and that he now forms part of what is an excellent collection.


Best wishes



Bob

  

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Hi Bob Following my email last week saying another dealer had mentioned some rare toby jugs coming up at auction in the USA on their website I thought you'd like to know that they have now put another article on saying how badly damaged they were and what a staggering price they sold for - Garths auction and sold for $3165 !. I imagine they weren't intending to bid themselves which is why they mentioned this before the sale but a bit irritating for anyone who was going to bid - we all want to find some hidden treasure that no-one else has seen! Plus in their first article they congratulated themselves on having got the auction to provide extra condition reports but didn't mention what the reports said and then after the sale went into all the details. Having told the world about them to encourage bidders they now destroy the confidence of the buyer - not really doing anyone any favours are they! Simon W.


Hi Simon
 
Garths auction in Delaware on July 27th, Lot 801 - Village Idiot and Thin Man Toby jugs.
 
Many thanks for your emails regarding the “news” articles that appeared on another website regarding this sale. I have just looked at various articles on that site and I’m astonished at how much time is spent commenting negatively on Toby jugs recently sold at auction. Why such a downbeat attitude is adopted within what is a vibrant and ever growing collecting community is difficult to understand.
 
It would be unprofessional of me to directly comment on individual articles that appear on this or any other website and I’m very confident that collectors who read these “news” items will be able to draw their own conclusions - some I imagine may be disappointed to see their recent auction purchase commented upon in such a manner. I will continue to occupy my time locating, and finding good homes for early English Toby jugs - rather than simply writing about them!
 
Talking of which, I was absolutely delighted to have won the Garths Toby jugs and quite frankly would have paid considerably more for them. The blue Chinoiserie detail on the Thin Man is most unusual and the Village Idiot is a really nice example – whilst the Thin Man requires more attention, condition on both is far better than I expected and it will not be difficult for my restorer to bring them back to full glory!  
 
You know my views on restoration - provided it’s a good Toby jug, a comprehensive condition report including all details of restoration is provided and the price fully reflects its condition, then buying a Toby jug with restoration is perfectly acceptable. These Toby jugs are prime examples and not surprisingly sales have already been agreed on both - once restored two collectors will each acquire a lovely and rare Toby jug at a very affordable price.
 
Best wishes
 
Bob Moores



27th August 2013 
(see Vernon Creekmore's message at the bottom of the page)

Dear Vernon

Thank you for your comment on my article regarding the "Garths" toby jugs - we agree that it helps no-one when a dealer discusses a forthcoming auction in this way!

I felt obliged to write this article as several collectors (in UK, USA and Europe) had expressed concern at these and other "news" articles that have appeared on the website concerned describing somewhat harshly Toby jugs recently sold at auction.

We have a great collecting community
and it will continue to flourish provided we can eliminate such negative comment

Best wishes

Bob



8th September 2013

Hello Bob

I read the articles regarding the Garths sales along with additional news pieces on the other website you mention and as a lover of early Toby's I hate the negativity that seems to be surfacing - snide comments can poison the well for everyone.

My expertise is early figures and I sometimes note erroneous descriptions or misleading/incorrect condition reports. When this happens, I email the appropriate person and the error is invariably corrected before a sale occurs because most sellers want to do the right thing. There just is no need for them to be nasty!

To critique Toby's sold at auction after the auction seems harsh. Imagine how your heart would drop if you found your new treasure described as moonlighting as a duck at the fairground or something similar. If it were me, I would probably never buy again. Despite my personal preference for a high collecting standard, I acknowledge that many collectors may only be able to afford to buy at the lower end of the price range and to be able to buy a well restored early toby jug at an affordable price enables them to acquire representative examples.

It's good that early Toby jugs that have suffered damage can be restored and found good homes with collectors who are made fully aware of the level of restoration and have paid accordingly.

Myrna

 

September 11th 2013

Dear Myrna

Thank you so much for your comments.

I'm sure that most collectors who visit this other website will be able to form their own opinion regarding the "news" articles and will not be dissuaded from bidding for early Toby Jugs at auction - indeed recent experience confirms that prices for good Toby jugs continue to increase which is good news for all of us!

This other site continues to mention future auctions featuring early Toby jugs which I think is very bad form and of course disappointing for any collector hoping to secure a bargain. When they fail to mention a good early Toby jug being sold at a forthcoming auction should we assume that they might be bidding themselves!

I completely agree with your comments regarding restored Toby jugs in that they provide collectors with an opportunity to acquire a good early example which they otherwise might not be able to afford.

Kind regards

Bob




23rd September 2103

Graham - the proud new owner of the Village Idiot has just taken delivery of this fine Toby jug - please see his much appreciated comments at the bottom of this section.

The Thin Man is also back from my restorer and he really is a lovely example. He will shortly be off to join another fine collection

Bob Moores

 
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Small Hearty Good Fellow - from it's new owner - July 2nd 2013

Given the interest created by the small Hearty Good Fellow toby jug, I wonder if I might offer a comment as the new owner? One of the striking things about the jug, after the small size, is the brilliance of the glazing, which is never easy to capture in a photograph. Aside from the Christie`s example you mention, I have not see another of these small jugs decorated in this way during the course of quite a few years of collecting, so I suspect that this particular model is not that common. He may not be to everyone`s taste, but that is the nature of our hobby. Personally I think he is both unusual and great fun - extremely pleased to have him sit on my shelves!"
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Hearty Good Fellow

Hi Graham and thank you so much for your kind comments regarding the website.

I agree with you completely on the importance of providing prices and will continue to do so for every item on the site - of course I am always happy to negotiate, however, visitors need an indication of the likely value of any particular piece.

On the question of whether or not the buff coloured Hearty Good Fellow was a model on which subsequent HGF's were based - I have to say I simply don't know but I think it pretty unlikely. If anyone has a view please write in and I'll also seek the opinion of some of my more knowledgeable collectors

Many thanks

Bob





American Toby Jug Museum

Located in Chicago, the American Toby Jug Museum houses an amazing collection of 8000 toby and character jugs dating from the late 18th century to present day - a must for any visitor to the city.

The museum was opened by Stephen Mullins some years ago and is the culmination of 65 years of collecting. I have had the pleasure of knowing Steve for several years and have provided one or two of the toby jugs in the collection.

Steve had recently updated the Museum's website and it is well worth a visit:

Www.tobyjugmuseum.com

PS. Steve has just sent me a series of pictures showing the section of the Museum for 18th century toby jugs and it is simply outstanding - and I thought that I had a good collection!

This has to be one of, if not the, largest collection of early toby jugs in the world and included within it are many extremely rare examples. So next time you are in Chicago..........


 


March 2013

Small Hearty Good Fellow toby jug

 
You may have seen the small Hearty Good Fellow toby jug that I have listed – a number of friends have pointed out that this toby jug has appeared on another website and has been described as “A very crude Hearty Good Fellow toby jug” – how terribly mean !
 
I consider him to be a charming example and what the other site failed to mention is that he is unusually short at c.8 1/3” and therefore rather rare - a similar buff coloured example sold in New York in January 2002 for $2820.00.
 
We collect toby jugs primarily for the sheer enjoyment that this brings and also perhaps with the hope that they will appreciate in value over time and become good investments as has been the case for a number of years – if only we could bring ourselves to part with them!
 
It is concerning when we see articles questioning the value, condition or quality of toby jugs that have recently sold at auction or elsewhere, especially if those commenting may not have had the opportunity to see the jugs for themselves. A healthy exchange of views is to be encouraged, but there is a danger that unduly negative comments may deter new and even established collectors from bidding for a particular toby jug at auction or buying at a fair. If this were the case then there would be fewer bidders, lower prices and ultimately a possible reduction in the value of our collections.
 
For the 10 years that I have collected and sold early toby jugs the market has been buoyant and with the advent of many new collectors over the past few years this should continue to the benefit of us all. I know from frequent contact with collectors around the world that these views are widely shared.
 
It doesn’t matter that few of our friends or even family understand us - collecting toby jugs is one of life’s great pleasures and I will do all that I can to encourage and promote this wonderful obsession !
 
Bob Moores



Restoration – early toby jugs
 
My thoughts on restoration apply to all areas of early pottery, however, I will focus on early toby jugs as this is an area where opinions vary.
 
We are talking about a fragile material which over a period of c.200 years has many opportunities to get damaged - I think it's fair to say that less than 20% or even 10% of toby jugs remain completely intact. Therefore, unless we are content with small collections, we must accept restoration as a fact of life.
 
Having said that it’s preferable not to buy a restored example of a relatively common and not too costly toby jug eg a brown or blue sponge coated barrel when given time a complete and original one will become available. Likewise, unless it’s a very rare toby jug, one that has been too heavily restored ought to be avoided. 
 
When it comes to the rarer or finer toby jugs then, unless you have a significant budget, you may well have to accept some restoration. Of course some toby jugs are so rare that you may never identify a “perfect” example and therefore acquiring one with some restoration is perfectly acceptable.
 
It should not be forgotten that many collectors simply cannot afford large sums of money for say a good Ralph Wood toby jug and the opportunity to buy an example with some good restoration at perhaps half of the normal price is welcomed.
 
Bear in mind that a good restorer will be able to ensure that to the eye the toby jug is perfect. It is only when examined under a blue light, tapped with a coin or looked at closely through a loupe (for continuous glaze crazing etc) that restoration is visible.
 
To conclude, don’t be dissuaded from buying a good toby jug that has had some professional restoration provided:
 
* The quality of restoration work is to a high standard
 
* The degree of restoration is not too significant
 
* You are made aware of all restoration including old work - a complete condition report
 
* The price reflects the fact that the toby jug has been restored and to what degree
 
Bob Moores


 



Graham Lees 14th March 2013
Congratulations on an excellent site, easy to use and navigate with plenty of jugs to admire and choose. I particularly appreciate seeing the price of your jugs, so many dealers list their items as POA or refer to the price band a jug falls into. If you're looking to buy you want to know the price. No messing about, much better. REF: "Crude Hearty Good Fellow" He's not crude more unsophisticated. Crude is a rather derogatory emotive terminology suggesting he's not worth much compared to the more normal examples we see. Some priceless works of Art are viewed as simplistic in conception "crude" if you like, so much depends on personal taste and opinion. Personally I think he's great especially when seen on the site against his bigger brothers. Was he the model on which all the other HGF was based? I would love to know. Graham Lees
Crude Hearty Good Fellow.

Alfredo Garcia 5th April 2013
Alfredo Garcia After some attempts last week I finally I have a quiet afternoon to enjoy your new site. You know how busy I have been !. My congratulations, it is extensive and so now all collectors can see many images and much information on a wide range of suggesed pieces to add to any collection. The home page is a good welcome that awakes suddenly the interest. The Pratt pipe and the step toby jug are very desirable. You are right keeping them in your collection, but fortunately there are many good examples of toby jugs for sale, my passion. The items for sale section gives very good information with a short description and different pictures that tells a lot for choosing or at least for enjoying. (I will contact you soon for further information after choosing a couple of tobys) Only a suggestion, when you have asked for more images and then wish to return to the product list you go back to the beginning of the first page instead of going straight to the last item seen. Keeping the site alive, with interest for visiting, involves a big effort, but surely gives the pleasure of getting a closer relation with many collectors that can become a friend like I am. My best wishes Bob !!
congratulations

Nestegg Antiques:

Dear Alfredo

My response to your message is long overdue and I apologise for this - I am still working out how this website functions, and incidentally I am working on sorting out your suggested improvement!

You purchased your first toby jug from me in April 2008 and since then your collection has grown significantly - it is now a major collection in global terms - and certainly the largest in Spain!

My kindest regards to both you and Begona and I look forward to being in touch with you soon

Bob



Dana M. Damren, U.S.A. 2nd May 2013
As a somewhat novice but passionate collector of early British Toby Jugs, I've found Bob at NestEgg Antiques to be honest in his descriptions, helpful with his advice, extremely fair with his prices, outstanding in his packing, and a great all around nice guy to "chat" with online. My goal is to add 2 or 3 new jugs to my collection each year and I know I have to look no further than this website for the best quality and selection. I hope someday to visit the U.K. and one of my destinations will hopefully be to visit Bob in person. Thank you, and keep up the good work!

Nestegg Antiques:
Dear Dana

My apologies for the delay in responding to your kind message - I'm still trying to figure out how this website works!

I have the pleasure of working with numerous toby collectors around the world and the enthusiasm that you show for every new toby jug that you acquire makes this so worthwhile - it really is my pleasure

Kindest regards

Bob

Vernon Creekmore 27th August 2013
Your discussion on the Garth's Toby Jugs sale is well taken. I also found the pre and post auction verbiage. I was quite put back by the comments. I was one of the underbidders and like you, do not need such help..

Graham Lees 22nd September 2013
Hi Bob, Fantastic " Village Idiot " toby, now in pride of place in the cabinet. Having read the various comments about the condition I did wonder what it would look like, sorry Vernon you missed an excellent rare jug, the only damage a minor 20mm hairline at the back of the hat and 2 very, very small chips at the rear of the base. Now restored it is pristine, I challenge anyone to find the damage. When my son inherits my collection he will no doubt sell it to buy a flash sports car. Auction catalogue will not pick up the restoration because it's so good. I am over the moon with jug. Thanks Bob Graham

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